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Peter Guy Jones's avatar

You make some excellent points. It baffles me why anyone would think materialism is necessary for science. It indicates a serious misunderstanding of metaphysics.

You write: "Popperian falsifiability is a standard for scientific theories, not for philosophical or metaphysical positions in general; "

I would want to disagree a little here. A metaphysical theory must be falsifiable in logic, and it seems relevant that the Buddha tells us not to take any notice of ideas that are unverifiable. It seems to me that it would take only a minor tweak to extend Popper's falsifiability criterion to cover metaphysics and mysticism.

Philosophers often seem reluctant to admit that metaphysical theories are falsifiable, preferring to juggle a thousand balls at once rather than using logic to reduce the number, but this doesn't mean their theories are unfalsifiable.

Joseph Rahi's avatar

I haven't finished reading yet, but I needed to stop to correct your misunderstanding of "Cartesian materialism" and the "Cartesian theatre". You wrote,

> Dennett (1991) describes a similar phenomenon, coining the term “Cartesian materialism” to refer to the belief that one is a physicalist, when in reality one holds a Cartesian dualist position or uses imprecise dualistic language. In actuality, the majority of neuroscientists use terms such as “enters consciousness”, which, according to Dennett, implies the incorrect notion of a “Cartesian theatre”.

But he's not saying that these people are in reality Cartesian dualists at all. He wrote,

> Let’s call the idea of such a centered locus in the brain Cartesian materialism, since it’s the view you arrive at when you discard Descartes’s dualism but fail to discard the imagery of a central (but material) Theater where “it all comes together.” The pineal gland would be one candidate for such a Cartesian Theater, but there are others that have been suggested — the anterior cingulate, the reticular formation, various places in the frontal lobes. Cartesian materialism is the view that there is a crucial finish line or boundary somewhere in the brain, marking a place where the order of arrival equals the order of “presentation” in experience because what happens there is what you are conscious of.

It doesn't involve any dualism, implicitly or explicitly. What makes it "Cartesian" is not any kind of dualism, but the idea of a single central conscious self, like a material res cogitans somewhere in the brain.

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